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Old 11-03-2012, 12:00 PM   #41
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Yours probably weights about the same as mine then. My last 69 I had about 12 years ago was similiar to the one I have now but with a aluminum headed Big Block and it weighed 3690 with me in it. My weight is going to go up once I put the bar in it also and I still have factory seats and mounts. I probably will just try to lighten it up on the front and outside panels. My interior has the factory console and all the original gauges that still amazingly work including clock so I don't want to gut it just to make it a little lighter. I am going to AFR Heads and A Titan Intake and a Aluminum water pump so getting rid of alot of the heavy engine parts will help some on the weight also.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:03 PM   #42
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you still using a stock fuel tank? anrt they rather heavy too
No. I have a plastic 15 gallon fuel cell. Probly did that around 10 years ago.
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1/8th mile-5.59@130
1/4 mile-8.59@162
3515lb race weight on E85
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:08 PM   #43
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thats one of my next moves in the talon thats y i was asking.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:08 PM   #44
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Yours probably weights about the same as mine then. My last 69 I had about 12 years ago was similiar to the one I have now but with a aluminum headed Big Block and it weighed 3690 with me in it. My weight is going to go up once I put the bar in it also and I still have factory seats and mounts. I probably will just try to lighten it up on the front and outside panels. My interior has the factory console and all the original gauges that still amazingly work including clock so I don't want to gut it just to make it a little lighter. I am going to AFR Heads and A Titan Intake and a Aluminum water pump so getting rid of alot of the heavy engine parts will help some on the weight also.
Having a small block helps the weight of course. Mine is a small block (434) with aluminum heads and aluminum electric water pump. Aluminum radiator. But my Procharger and intercooler along with all the pipe for it is all pretty dam heavy. I also have all of the stock interior except for the seats. Even has a radio still.

Which AFR heads are you going to? I switched from a ported set of AFR 210 heads I had ran since 2001 to a new set of AFR 245 heads with titanium retainers this year. Absolutely amazing 23 degree head!
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:10 PM   #45
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:36 PM   #46
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chad, ill be in contact with you here soon, if you remember our conversation at cordova im going with the combo i was telling you about there.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:37 PM   #47
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chad, ill be in contact with you here soon, if you remember our conversation at cordova im going with the combo i was telling you about there.
That sounds great! Get a hold of me any time.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:41 PM   #48
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I bought the Competition ported 210 AFR's with 64cc and then I bought the new Titan Intake to match and then switching to 1.6 rockers and adjustable plates. Hoping that going to these from my Dart 200 Iron Eagle heads will make a big difference. These have much bigger valves and show that they flow much better than my Darts. I think the difference is the Darts flow 270 at 600 lift and the AFR's flow I think 320 but not sure.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:43 PM   #49
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:45 PM   #50
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Which AFR heads are you going to? I switched from a ported set of AFR 210 heads I had ran since 2001 to a new set of AFR 245 heads with titanium retainers this year. Absolutely amazing 23 degree head!
he is buying my topend. AFR competition ported 210's, 1.6 rockers & the matching AFR titan composite intake.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:52 PM   #51
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I bought the Competition ported 210 AFR's with 64cc and then I bought the new Titan Intake to match and then switching to 1.6 rockers and adjustable plates. Hoping that going to these from my Dart 200 Iron Eagle heads will make a big difference. These have much bigger valves and show that they flow much better than my Darts. I think the difference is the Darts flow 270 at 600 lift and the AFR's flow I think 320 but not sure.
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he is buying my topend. AFR competition ported 210's, 1.6 rockers & the matching AFR titan composite intake.
That's awesome! I had amazing luck with my AFR 210's ported by JDC Engineering. He also did a FULL port job on my Super Victor intake. Before my heads were ported when I 1st bought them I ran them on a 383 stroker. Then a 406, then a 434 after porting. Car ran 10.40NA with the 434 and 210's. That was in early 2006. Then last year with the 210's I ran a best of 9.19@153mph (with the Procharger of course).

My old 210's are back on the 406 I had them on years ago. I did a complete build for my buddy for a tubbed 1980 Malibu this year.
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3515lb race weight on E85
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:57 PM   #52
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I have a 383 Stroker now that I'm putting them on. I'm going to up the compression on it alittle and these heads I think are already all ported and match the intake. I want to get the compression up to around 12 to 1 . Right now its probably just 10 to 1
I have a good Eagle Crank and Eagle H-beam 6" rods so I hope it will be a good combo.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:11 PM   #53
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That should make you happy. And if not just spray more nitrous in it!
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:12 PM   #54
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I have a 383 Stroker now that I'm putting them on. I'm going to up the compression on it alittle and these heads I think are already all ported and match the intake. I want to get the compression up to around 12 to 1 . Right now its probably just 10 to 1
I have a good Eagle Crank and Eagle H-beam 6" rods so I hope it will be a good combo.
What are you going to use for a cam? Roller is the only way to go. I run a solid roller right at .700 lift.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:16 PM   #55
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I already have a solid roller right now but its only 600 lift but with the 1.6's should help out some.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:23 PM   #56
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If your going from a 1.5 then you will be around .664.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:25 PM   #57
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Yes that is what I have now on my Dart heads . Wow that big of a jump huh?
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:29 PM   #58
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Yes but the heads will like it.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:19 PM   #59
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Ya with this new setup I definetely will have to get the Caltracs! Did you have alot of trouble getting yours adjusted?
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:54 PM   #60
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Ya with this new setup I definetely will have to get the Caltracs! Did you have alot of trouble getting yours adjusted?
No problems at all. I have became very picky with the setup though on the day I go to the track. I weigh myself holding my helmet and jacket then I put that exact weight in the drivers seat. Then with all 4 wheels on the ground I adjust the caltracs and ARB. I adjust the caltracs so there is zero play then I put a 1\4 turn preload on each side. I have found at this power level if I am not this picky the car is all over the place off the line. But doing it this way it goes perfectly straight. I have also found the better I get the suspension working the more tire pressure I can run which helps keep the rear end sway down at over 160mph! I have been running 14psi in the tires. It is a Mickey Thompson stiff sidewall slick with tubes. Heavy leafspring cars seem to like the stiff sidewall better. I have tried both and wont run a soft sidewall again.

What leaf springs do you have? Multi or mono? Mono will work the best. It allows the caltracs to really work. If you have multi then I highly suggest Calverts split mono leaf.
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